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Postby DQ » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:01 pm

The Mods of these threads do not wnat discussions on the Discussion Boards.

Yea.

Rules of the Boards.

1. Spam - Flame whatever, any discussion if it does not suit us it will be removed.

2. If posts do not suit the mods moods it will be removed.

3. At times we may even remove threads / posts for no reason. After all we are hosting these boards and we can do it with no reason.

4. Stupidity prevails, take it or leave it.

5. List goes on. Discussions not permitted on Discussion boards.

6. Goes on, when we have the mood will add on the rules.
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Re: MODS do not want Discussions. on DBs

Postby IMFBreturns » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:09 pm

DQ wrote:The Mods of these threads do not wnat discussions on the Discussion Boards.

Yea.

Rules of the Boards.

1. Spam - Flame whatever, any discussion if it does not suit us it will be removed.

2. If posts do not suit the mods moods it will be removed.

3. At times we may even remove threads / posts for no reason. After all we are hosting these boards and we can do it with no reason.

4. Stupidity prevails, take it or leave it.

5. List goes on. Discussions not permitted on Discussion boards.

6. Goes on, when we have the mood will add on the rules.


Well thx for the break down DQ...but was it necessary. I think the reactions of ppl on the boards is so fickle that it doesn't really matter what you do. IMHO, people on the boards don't really care to have a discussion and start spamming. the only time you will continue a discussion is if it interests you. Otherwise change the topic of the thread and tangent off in that thread instead of making a new thread. I thnk ppl are more interested to have the post count higher instead of actually contributing to the topic on hand. There are some threads that have been setup for spamming in particular...go there if you want to....it just annoys ppl who are actually looking for some info when the point of the thread was to get help. It looks really good to noobs when they come to the FHDB and ppl actually provide relevant info...not the tricks to spam....

thats just in my opinion...i bet you'd feel the same when it happens to your threads....
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Postby jungle » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:21 pm

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Postby CtrlAltDel » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:21 pm

any of yr threads/posts deleted today DQ???
wtf? i no longer care if my posts hurt yr feelings :roll:
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Postby The Jackal » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:34 pm

Wow this is like Deja Vu......wasnt someother member also pissed off at the mods?
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Postby dareversesting » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:56 pm

if you are pointing towards to your "genes" post being deleted..then i stand by mods...the post was to be deleted not becos u started but bcos the way it was heading and lots of flaming around
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Postby CtrlAltDel » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:31 am

man...without some spoce (read 'flame') discussions get boring...:D

what are we suppossed to discuss from now on? movies? marriage? love? sex? or just mindless spam???

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Postby CtrlAltDel » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:32 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:...without some spoce (read 'flame') discussions get boring...
read that as 'spice'
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Postby Sri » Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:17 pm

I think the moderators here at Fullhyderabad are too liberal or else too soft hearted (minded)

I am seeing so many guys posting useless spams, immatured and insulting comments over others.

A firm gang or legion is moving around in this forum, which target some debaters. They kill the topics with utmost indecency.

I think infusion of new blood is good.

Cutting the tail of undisciplined urchins is very good.

Banning somebody will create new introductions. There will be New, pure, and healthy blood in this forum.

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Postby DQ » Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:15 pm

dareversesting wrote:if you are pointing towards to your "genes" post being deleted..then i stand by mods...the post was to be deleted not becos u started but bcos the way it was heading and lots of flaming around



Really !!!!
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Postby dareversesting » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:10 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:man...without some spoce (read 'flame') discussions get boring...:D

what are we suppossed to discuss from now on? movies? marriage? love? sex? or just mindless spam???

:roll:


nahi yaar dekh flaming is good and blv me i got lot of interest in that genes topic but the moment i saw some direct hitting blv me DIRECT hitting on each others religion i was shocked that how is this being allowed....and rightfully said by someone...banning should start taking place.....
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Postby Alexis » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:50 am

Sri wrote:I think the moderators here at Fullhyderabad are too liberal or else too soft hearted (minded)

I am seeing so many guys posting useless spams, immatured and insulting comments over others.

A firm gang or legion is moving around in this forum, which target some debaters. They kill the topics with utmost indecency.

I think infusion of new blood is good.

Cutting the tail of undisciplined urchins is very good.

Banning somebody will create new introductions. There will be New, pure, and healthy blood in this forum.

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I agree with Sri here.

Some topics on this board are very interesting and invite some very good responses, but ultimately someone comes along and posts something totally unrelated and skews the whole rhythm of the thread.

Seriously though, very sensitive topics should be avoided because it is bound to hurt someone. Sure, this is a dicussion board, but theres no need to discuss those matters here.

Then theres the whole "flaming" deal that this board has had to deal with lately. Its no surprise people cant get along in the real world when its impossible even on a board like this.

Im behind the Mods on this. :)
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Postby Lucifer » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:01 am

Alexis wrote:... Im behind the Mods on this. :)


Welcome back, Alexis. Boy have I missed you around! :D

But being me, I just have to say this. Why are you behind the Mods? And what exactly are you doing from there? I mean, are you the woman who is supposedly there behind every successful mod? 8)

PS: We need your posts here more often. The DBs just seem dull without them.
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Postby DQ » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:07 am

Hmm right so that post should be skewed, not entire threads.

It appears Mods to take pleasure in "rants" that prevail and when posed with a challenge remove the entire thread and pppl like CAD come back with its gettin dirty etc

nyway i am outta here too...happy diwali
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Postby CtrlAltDel » Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:04 am

DQ wrote:...pppl like CAD come back with its gettin dirty etc...
cud u plz explain that comment....? :x
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Postby gyanster » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:25 pm

Looks like someone has realised that fullhyd does not do anything about spam posts like those earn millions out of Rs 60 and keeps posting.

To the mods, I know it is a huge job to run a site, but please deal with this, if not, give any of the senior members some Moderating powers and I am sure no one will ask for any money (atleast I won't) for keeping this site clean...
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Postby smack » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:57 pm

gyanster wrote:Looks like someone has realised that fullhyd does not do anything about spam posts like those earn millions out of Rs 60 and keeps posting.

To the mods, I know it is a huge job to run a site, but please deal with this, if not, give any of the senior members some Moderating powers and I am sure no one will ask for any money (atleast I won't) for keeping this site clean...


I am really surprised that people get away posting anything here. ANd it is not as if there are 100s of new topics everyday and moderation should not be too difficult
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Postby gyanster » Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:12 pm

yeah, there has been the escort service and now this. there are lot of double posts, two threads running at the same time for the same topic.. and I raised the issue but no response from the mods.. I don't think there are any mods in here..
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Postby rock_26iin » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:53 pm

gyanster wrote:.. I don't think there are any mods in here..


shh...u'll wake them up from their slumber.
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Postby gyanster » Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:26 pm

I think this software that they purchased makes it very difficult for them to remove posts. I have seen the same kind of forum software on different sites.

Come on fullhyd we are like your customers, keeping your site alive, it is your responsibility to do some maintenance.
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Postby rock_26iin » Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:42 pm

gyanster wrote:I think this software that they purchased makes it very difficult for them to remove posts. I have seen the same kind of forum software on different sites.

Come on fullhyd we are like your customers, keeping your site alive, it is your responsibility to do some maintenance.


Let sleeping dogs lie.


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Postby samai » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:58 pm

A worldwide battle for free speech is taking place, with Denmark at the center of the storm.

It all began last September when a Danish author writing a book on Islam was unable to find artists willing to submit illustrations because of the Islamic stricture against visual representations of Muhammad. To try and call attention to the issue, the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten put out a call for cartoonists to submit depictions of Muhammad. Twelve cartoons were submitted and eventually printed in the newspaper.

The cartoons themselves were a mixed bunch. Some merely depicted Muhammad as a man, which is by no means a historical first. Other, more provocative drawings alluded to the realities of terrorism and misogyny in the Muslim world. But in the risqué realm of political cartoons, they could hardly be construed as derogatory toward an entire religion. If compared to the body of criticism and satire connected to Western religion, the cartoons were downright tame. Government-subsidized art in the West using human urine and elephant dung to depict Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary come to mind.

But judging by the reaction from the Muslim world, one would think that a crime against humanity had been committed. The response so far has included demands for apologies and censorship, violent protests, Danish flag-burnings, attacks on Danish aid workers, employees, diplomats and embassies, as well as terrorist warnings and death threats. On several occasions, the staff at Jyllands-Posten was forced to evacuate the building after a bomb threat, and the cartoonists who drew the Muhammad series have now gone into hiding.

In Denmark, a group of radical imams and Danish Muslim organizations tried to pressure the newspaper's editor, Carsten Juste, and Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen into apologizing. Juste acknowledged that the cartoons may have offended Muslims, but he refused to express regret over the decision or to back down on the issue of free speech. Rasmussen issued an apology to the Muslim community but would not cave in to demands that he censor Jyllands-Posten. As he put it, "Independent media are not edited by the government."

The campaign to defame Denmark soon went international, with calls for Muslim consumers around the world to boycott Danish products. As a result, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Libya, Kuwait and the Palestinians pledged to join the boycott, and more Muslim countries are sure to follow. The boycott is already having an impact on sectors of Denmark's economy, with workers being laid off and businesses put at risk.

Islamists Fan the Flames

No doubt the furor was inflamed by the spreading of three false and ridiculously over-the-top cartoons via a report handed out by a group of Danish imams touring the Muslim world and meeting with political, religious and media figures. Spokesman Akhmad Akkari actually admitted that the drawings had been added, but claimed the cartoons had been sent to them anonymously. It seems that the original cartoons were not sufficiently offensive to whip the Muslim masses into a frenzy.

Whether the protesters constitute large portions of the Muslim population or simply a radical fringe is still questionable. It certainly is odd that the cartoons came out in September and are only now causing such an uproar. How all those Danish flags suddenly appeared across the Muslim world is another curiosity. Could it be that this "movement" was in fact orchestrated? The finger has been pointed at Syria and Iran as possible contenders.

But some Muslims have chosen not to follow the script. Emboldened by the fortitude of their countrymen, Danish Muslims in the city of Arhus have begun to speak out against the radical imams who purport to represent them. "There is a large group of Muslims in this city who want to live in a secular society and adhere to the principle that religion is an issue between them and God and not something that should involve society," said city official and organizer Bünyamin Simsek.

European Media Fight Back

What's more, the European media seem to be experiencing an awakening. All across Europe, newspaper after newspaper has expressed solidarity with Jyllands-Posten by reprinting the cartoons. As of this writing, newspapers in Norway, Germany, Spain, Italy, Holland, the Czech Republic, Switzerland and Hungary have followed suit. Going further, a Moscow museum is showing its support for free speech by exhibiting the entire series of Muhammad cartoons in an upcoming show.

The cartoons were also reprinted in the French newspaper France Soir, although the editor was fired a day later by the French-Egyptian owner. Also suffering the same fate were the two brave editors who reprinted several of the drawings in Jordanian newspapers. Both have since been arrested under Jordan's press and publications law.

While newspapers in New Zealand and Australia have reprinted the cartoons and the BBC has aired them on television, the American media are still coming around. After months of reporting on the story without reprinting the cartoons, a select few are just now jumping into the fray.

U.S. Media Off to Slow Start

The New York Sun reprinted one of the cartoons in its print edition and the Philadelphia Inquirer linked to the cartoons from its Web site, reprinting one of them in the paper. The Chronicle has avoided reprinting the cartoons thus far, although its online arm, SF Gate, published one and linked to others in the World Views international news blog last week as well as linking in this column. Fox News broadcast some of the images on television, as did ABC News and the PBS NewsHour. The Riverside Press-Enterprise and The Dallas Morning News each ran one of the cartoons.

Other media outlets continue to censor themselves in the name of cultural sensitivity, but perhaps fear would be a more appropriate term.

Fortunately, alternative media have taken up the job. Bloggers and Web sites all over the world have posted the cartoons and reported extensively on the topic. In reaction to the consumer boycott of Danish products emanating from the Muslim world, a "Buy Danish" campaign has popped up on the Internet, while SupportDenmark.com is offering a series of pro-Denmark banners.

Chorus of Political Cowards

Other reactions have been less than inspiring.

Former President Bill Clinton chimed in on the subject while speaking at a UCLA-sponsored conference in Qatar last month. But instead of supporting Jyllands-Posten's brave defense of free speech, he railed against what he called "these totally outrageous cartoons against Islam."

State Department spokesman Kurtis Cooper issued a statement on behalf of the U.S. government that took the same approach. While paying lip service to freedom of the press, the statement said that the cartoons were "inciting religious or ethnic hatreds." By remaining effectively silent, the Bush administration missed a historic opportunity to set the bar higher.

Instead of providing moral footing, the Vatican provided moral confusion in a statement that called the drawings an "unacceptable provocation."

Rounding out the chorus of cowards, British Foreign Minister Jack Straw accused European newspapers of acting irresponsibly and labeled the cartoons "insensitive," "disrespectful" and "wrong."

The United Nations' weak-kneed response was equally disappointing. The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights reacted sympathetically to calls from the Organization of the Islamic Conference and the Arab League for a U.N. resolution, including possible sanctions, to ban "religious discrimination." Meanwhile, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan issued another of his typically ambiguous statements on the matter. This coming from the man who addressed an audience at a U.N. conference last November in front of a "map of Palestine" -- minus the state of Israel.

The European Union, although initially condemning the cartoons, has since risen to the occasion. With Austria holding the rotating presidency, the EU expressed its support for freedom of speech. "We have reiterated our belief and our attachment to the freedom of the press and freedom of expression as part of our fundamental values," said Austrian Foreign Minister Ursula Plassnik.

Indeed, what's at the heart of the matter is a fundamental misunderstanding among many Muslims about the meaning of free speech in the West. While some find the cartoons offensive, that does not give them the right to ban the cartoons or to react violently.

Free Speech in Action?

The recent controversy in the United States over a Tom Toles cartoon in the Washington Post is a case in point. The chairman and all five members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff sent a letter to the editor critiquing the cartoon, followed by several days of public debate. No one tried to censor the newspaper for running Toles' cartoon, and no one's life was threatened. Would that the Washington Post were as strident in its defense of the Danish cartoonists' rights to free speech as they were of Toles'.

The Danish cartoon controversy is certainly not the first example of European writers and artists trying to tackle subjects relating to Islam and encountering resistance. The murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh in 2004 was an earlier wake-up call. Van Gogh was ritualistically murdered by Islamic extremist Muhammad Bouyeri because his film "Submission" shed light on the oppression of women in Islamic culture. His partner, Ayan Hirsi Ali, born in Somalia and a member of parliament, was forced to go into hiding, and she retains extensive security to this day. Interestingly, none of the Hollywood glitterati came to Van Gogh's defense or even referenced his brutal murder.

Similarly, in 1989 when the late Iranian leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa authorizing Muslims to murder British author Salman Rushdie for his allegedly blasphemous book, "The Satanic Verses," Western apologists for radical Islam said nothing. The leader of the terrorist group Hezbollah in Lebanon, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, recently invoked that case, saying that the cartoon dispute would never have occurred had the death sentence against Rushdie been carried out.

And now an Iranian newspaper has decided to test Westerners' commitment to free speech by holding a contest for the most inflammatory Holocaust cartoons. When the expected riots and death threats fail to materialize, perhaps that will be a lesson in free speech to those who really need it.

Misguided Multiculturalism

Today's apologists condemn the Danish cartoons, while ignoring real offenses from the Muslim world. Somehow Muslims inciting hatred toward other religions on a regular basis has become acceptable, while honest analysis of Islam has not. The daily eruptions of anti-Semitic and anti-American sentiment from the Muslim world are hardly pleasant for those on the receiving end. But instead of stifling speech, opponents challenge such expression on the intellectual and political battlefields. Yet some would have us turn a blind eye instead.

How did this double standard arise? The answer is multiculturalism. Not the multiculturalism of different cultures living side by side, but the ideology that renders all cultures equal and therefore none worthy of condemnation. Such moral equivalence allows for the most backward traditions to flourish, even when they are destructive to the society as a whole. When democratic societies find themselves dominated by intolerant cultures to which they have given sanctuary, everyone's freedom is put at risk.

Multiculturalism also has the effect of erasing any unifying culture or nationality in favor of a collection of balkanized groups with nothing in common. In such an environment, integration is forsaken and culture clashes are sure to follow. The Muslim riots in France last year were a prime example. Many a reporter chalked it up to the lack of integration in French society, but few followed that line of thought to its logical conclusion and named multiculturalism as the root cause.

Political correctness is another of multiculturalism's destructive offshoots, and there are certainly those in the West who would shield Muslim populations from legitimate criticism. But they are actually doing more harm than good. Much-needed reform will never be possible until Muslims learn to withstand examination like everyone else. Islam should be subjected to all the scholarly interpretation, self-reflection, humor and even insult that Western religions experience.

Beyond economic need, one of the reasons many Muslims immigrated to Western countries in the first place was to enjoy the sort of freedom denied to them in their native lands. Turning the West into Afghanistan under the Taliban will help no one. While Islam may enjoy equality with other religions, supremacy is another matter. If we are to truly integrate Muslims into our societies, it must be on an equal footing.

One of the most important and hard-won rights in the West is free speech. When free speech is chipped away in the name of avoiding offense, all else is soon forfeit. Western countries will have to decide where to draw the line -- or find themselves overtaken by tyranny.

With the controversy over the Muhammad cartoons, Europe seems to be awakening to this struggle.
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Postby ycr007 » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:27 pm

small post that :shock:
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Postby samai » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:17 pm

sorry, I do know its rather long, but do take out some time and read. informative and from just another perspective.
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Postby smack » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:07 pm

Aaylaa

samai,

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