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Respected Hyderabadis (America vs. Hyderabad)

by Respected Hyderabadis » Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:25 am

Respected Hyderabadis, Azeez bhaion/behnon wa buzurgon,



Mere pyare Hyderabadion, I'm really confused on what to do. Should I stay in America and pursue a career in medicine here, or should I return back to our "beloved" hyderabad, join medical school there, and continue to serve the people there.



For the last 2-3 years, I've constantly been evaluating and pondering over whether I should return back to India or stay here in the U.S.. I'm currently an Undergraduate student and have been living in America for the last ~10 years. Although, alhamdulillah, I've adjusted well here physically, academically, financially, etc., I feel as if I'll never truly belong here. Apart from my studies, I've hardly anything in common with the people here, both American and Desi. I love everything Hyderabadi (be it it's people, history, culture, architecture, weather, food, etc. etc.), and don't want my parents and kids (in the future) to spend the last/first part of their lives here.



Moreover, I also want to pursue a career in Medicine. Although there are poor, suffering people everywhere in the world, be it America or India, I would personally find the most satisfaction in treating, helping, and serving the sick and needy in Hyderabad.



Having read the above paragraphs, do you guys think it'd be better for me (1) to go back to Hyderabad and practice medicine there, or (2)stay here in the U.S., become a doctor and make a lot of money. Although I spent my childhood in hyderabad, and visit it every 2-3 years during holidays, I'm not that familiar with the the day-to-day lives of Hyderabadi's, and thus am not sure if the decision I'm leaning towards (which is going to med. school in hyderabad and "re-settling" there) is the right one or not.



Respected Desis, I now find myself at a very crucial junction of my life, and am turning towards you all for your expert help and guidance. Sorry for this long, somewhat confusing and "dramatic" post with lots of grammar/spelling mistakes. I'd indeed appreciate it and be truly grateful for your guy's advise. Thank You.



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Re: Respected Hyderabadis (America vs. Hyderabad)

by srinu » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:29 pm

Respected Hyderabadis wrote:Respected Hyderabadis, Azeez bhaion/behnon wa buzurgon,

Mere pyare Hyderabadion, I'm really confused on what to do. Should I stay in America and pursue a career in medicine here, or should I return back to our "beloved" hyderabad, join medical school there, and continue to serve the people there.

For the last 2-3 years, I've constantly been evaluating and pondering over whether I should return back to India or stay here in the U.S.. I'm currently an Undergraduate student and have been living in America for the last ~10 years. Although, alhamdulillah, I've adjusted well here physically, academically, financially, etc., I feel as if I'll never truly belong here. Apart from my studies, I've hardly anything in common with the people here, both American and Desi. I love everything Hyderabadi (be it it's people, history, culture, architecture, weather, food, etc. etc.), and don't want my parents and kids (in the future) to spend the last/first part of their lives here.

Moreover, I also want to pursue a career in Medicine. Although there are poor, suffering people everywhere in the world, be it America or India, I would personally find the most satisfaction in treating, helping, and serving the sick and needy in Hyderabad.

Having read the above paragraphs, do you guys think it'd be better for me (1) to go back to Hyderabad and practice medicine there, or (2)stay here in the U.S., become a doctor and make a lot of money. Although I spent my childhood in hyderabad, and visit it every 2-3 years during holidays, I'm not that familiar with the the day-to-day lives of Hyderabadi's, and thus am not sure if the decision I'm leaning towards (which is going to med. school in hyderabad and "re-settling" there) is the right one or not.

Respected Desis, I now find myself at a very crucial junction of my life, and am turning towards you all for your expert help and guidance. Sorry for this long, somewhat confusing and "dramatic" post with lots of grammar/spelling mistakes. I'd indeed appreciate it and be truly grateful for your guy's advise. Thank You.

NeemHakeem




Hakeem Saab: India ku jake, oakhli me sirr dena ki khayish hai kya?
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don't even think about it..!!

by Sr.K » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:01 pm

babu don't giveup beta.....



hang in there.. better to be with sharks than living here with frogs and crabs.....



hope I'nt giving you too much serious stuff... take it easy man.
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To Srinu & Sr.K

by To Srinu & Sr.K » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:12 pm

Srinu aur Sr.K saab, bahut bahut shukriya aap donon ke replies ka, layken I'm somewhat confused on what you two said.



Srinu bhai, can you clarify what you said (i.e. Hakeem Saab: India ku jake, oakhli me sirr dena ki khayish hai kya). What do you mean by "oakhli me sirr dena"?



Moreover, Sr.K, why are you referring to Indians as "sharks" and americans as "frogs and crabs"? Plus, isn't it better and safer to live with "frogs and crabs" than sharks (who may harm you).



Once again, thank you srinu bhai and Sr.K for your enlightening replies.
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Re: Respected Hyderabadis (America vs. Hyderabad)

by to hakeem » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:30 pm

Respected Hyderabadis wrote:Respected Hyderabadis, Azeez bhaion/behnon wa buzurgon,

Mere pyare Hyderabadion, I'm really confused on what to do. Should I stay in America and pursue a career in medicine here, or should I return back to our "beloved" hyderabad, join medical school there, and continue to serve the people there.

STAY IN AMERICA.

For the last 2-3 years, I've constantly been evaluating and pondering over whether I should return back to India or stay here in the U.S.. I'm currently an Undergraduate student and have been living in America for the last ~10 years. Although, alhamdulillah, I've adjusted well here physically, academically, financially, etc., I feel as if I'll never truly belong here. Apart from my studies, I've hardly anything in common with the people here, both American and Desi. I love everything Hyderabadi (be it it's people, history, culture, architecture, weather, food, etc. etc.), and don't want my parents and kids (in the future) to spend the last/first part of their lives here.

PARENTS WILL PROBABLY BE BETTER OFF IN HYDERABAD BUT YOUR KIDS WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH POOR EDUCATION AND THE PATHETIC QUALITY OF LIFE IN HYDERABAD; ON THE OTHER HAND YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN HYDERABADI CULTURE OUTSIDE HYDERABAD.

Moreover, I also want to pursue a career in Medicine. Although there are poor, suffering people everywhere in the world, be it America or India, I would personally find the most satisfaction in treating, helping, and serving the sick and needy in Hyderabad.

THIS IS A GOOD CONCEPT BUT IN REALITY MEDICAL PRACTICE IS CHALLENGING IN HYDERABAD.

Having read the above paragraphs, do you guys think it'd be better for me (1) to go back to Hyderabad and practice medicine there, or (2)stay here in the U.S., become a doctor and make a lot of money. Although I spent my childhood in hyderabad, and visit it every 2-3 years during holidays, I'm not that familiar with the the day-to-day lives of Hyderabadi's, and thus am not sure if the decision I'm leaning towards (which is going to med. school in hyderabad and "re-settling" there) is the right one or not.

THERE IS A REASON WHY PEOPLE LEAVE HYDERABAD, CHOOSE TO VISIT BUT NEVER TO RETURN.

Respected Desis, I now find myself at a very crucial junction of my life, and am turning towards you all for your expert help and guidance. Sorry for this long, somewhat confusing and "dramatic" post with lots of grammar/spelling mistakes. I'd indeed appreciate it and be truly grateful for your guy's advise. Thank You.

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by Portuguese Man-of-War » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:22 pm

I think distance makes the heart grow fonder - Hyderabad isn't perhaps what it was. Even if the traffic is something you can live with, many people here break laws with impunity (did I get the spelling right?), it takes little to start a brawl, and there's corruption. After you live in the US, especially for 10 years, it will take a lot of lure to be prepared for all of that.



I think you should go to med school anyway, make money, and send it to a charity in Hyderabad that can hire 5 doctors of your caliber with it here.
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sounds exhageratedd

by Sr.K » Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:45 pm

why do i take these kind of boards so seriously all the time.



our friend hakeem saab could be well be some where in Borivilli or something.!!



any way if you are just a student just try to complete ur stuff.



then you can worry about the poor people of india.



right or wrong ?
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Re: sounds exhageratedd

by srinu » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:00 am

Sr.K wrote:any way if you are just a student just try to complete ur stuff.

then you can worry about the poor people of india.

right or wrong ?




Are you saying that a bikhari has no right to aspire to give bheek to other bhikaris?
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Misguided Guidance?

by Misguided Guidance? » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:55 pm

Why is it that all of you are discouraging me from going back to Hyderabad for med. school? Sridhu, Sr. K, Portugese, stop being enslaved by the dollar and realize how fortunate are those who haven't been separated from Hyderabad.
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You dont understand

by hang in there is correct » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:59 am

I have been very lucky to have gone to US for small visits and to see whats exactly going on there.

Stayed there with a lot of people. Tried a lot of things. Well, I am a die hard fan of my country India



One of the famous blogs about socialism was written by me. I have posted it below. And friends. after reading this you wont think the way you are doing now. Love for my nation is in my blood. But do you know India is where it is due to the fact that many of our sons are outside. IN foreign lands. Though mexicans and chinese have more NRM's and NRC's ( expatriates ) there tendency to send money back home is less and that is exactly one of the reasons you should not come back.



I am posting my blog here . May be you will not like it. I did not like either when I was writing it.



From Socialism to Sarcasm

Shabana Azmi correctly pointed out that we have more opinions than information in our country,

I am keeping this blog as a placeholder for the long term plans to write about my own Kolkata.

I still love to call it Calcutta. We are known for our intellectual snobbishness, but where has it all taken us.



There is a right term "Kupa monduk" ( a frog in a well ) and that is what we all have become.Anything small looks great to us in Kolkata bcoz nothing really big has come our way in the last so many years. What happened? where was the mistake. There is no time to think those questions. It is time to come up.



There is no need for nuclear holocaust like Hiroshima to give you a reason. There are generations lost to poverty, hopelessness and incompetency . What more. So many lives already fed to the alter of misconstrued ideologies. This city has a lot of potential. They call themselves the great thinkers , but where is the output. Where is the art , where is the fusion , where is the renaissance. I will be bet my life on it that nothing really is going down there. Everybody now wants to go to foreign land. Brain drain was a problem " A IAS entrance essay " way back in the early 90's but to give you a sample of the way life goes in Kolkata, let me tell you , now when Indians abroad are coming back , the craze for GRE, SAT , GMAT has gone up in Kolkata.

That is how it is. Even after the mistake has been realized, and others are thinking of the next step , the city is thinking itself as an achiever as more and more people are trying to go out .

Coming to think of it, I think you need it to an extent since learning from others mistakes actually does not help. You need to make your own mistakes.





Boss, dont tell me that it is the passion for research that takes you there, It is definitely the glory of hearing " Oh you are now in US, when is your flight, How did you come. Show me fotos. All foreign goods "blah blah blah". That must be the cheapest way to fame.



That is the mindset of self gratification. What started as a need for a meritocratic society is now a doom in the making. Till date , the bengalis were some how feeding the rest of the nation to give its civil services. But now they all want to go out. Run like hell on fire . They all abhor Kolkata.



The 90's generation of Bengalis was absorbed by Bangalore and Pune. Delhi had usurped the early Babudom . And now with the new millenium, we are going international. Earlier the country was not suffering, only Kolkata , Now the nations goes starving for talent.



In Delhi , when you mention that you are an NRI , the first thing that strikes a persons mind is "must be a cab driver or a waiter ".( You will find only the people who have gone through those defend them vehemently ). Who asked your opinion in the first place. " or could not manage a decent job here, or could not manage to crack GATE or CAT" So went for studies abroad. There are 1.5 lakhs students that leave the country every year . USA gets what it wants, but there is nothing glorious in going there any more. You are not among one of the toppers now that you are going there. It now means more grit and toughness in staying here and making a mark. Trust me, make the man you are and make it here. Not by adopting another mother.



The country is bleeding . It is running and growing too fast, but it is only the big guys and they are getting richer by the day, Small players are dead.



Reliance is selling vegetables, chappals and MTNL is on ad these days. Do you think , you can start anything without getting swallowed by the big guns now. Well, there will be strong arguments against what I say, but think about it . It is high time 6th pay commission thinks about stronger pay packages in the government service. More foreign travel. Trust me the centre has more money than any other software company on earth, Why cannot it pay for its genius es like the software company does. Dont give me crap.

Defense budget etc.



Put good brains at work, ask them to do cost reduction at every sphere., See the talent bring in solutions. There are brains out there which will produce gems. Trust in talent,. America does. Why not India itself.



Welcome the people with money. Not everyone is a great soul. With so much trouble straight on your face while you grow , the only thing you want to do is grow asap. Family first., They have seen years of penury , languish. They dont want it anymore. But given they are able to give a superior quality of life to their immediate, they will not resort to bribes, or will not tend to give it a damn, they will value their nations memory, Since the nation cares for it.

Believe it or not, armed force people are joining the software industry giving up their jobs in the army. How come the most motivated people in the country run that way?



At one point of time, I seriously believed that if there hell on earth then that is India. The concept of hell meets all requirements that were in India. The average man had no chance of happiness. It is still the same in the badlands of some of the states. If you do good deeds , you get born in a developed country, 'and trust me I thought of it when I was in class 6 '. The amount of frustration in a 12 year old child in me must have been the nations failure. I had not yet then become a die hard lover of the nation. just a small child. So it must have been its failure .



Growing up is so different in those countries. Parents have to look after your emotional needs, given that material needs are always taken care of. Whereas look at how most of us came up to what we are today.

Never even knew that this is what we should be getting. We always thought that atleast we are not walking to school, at least there are two meals. They say diamonds come from coal. But the genious will come out , come what may. Dont put the rest of the coal to the treatment to get one diamond . That is bookish and way old. Look at knowledge now. Not everyone has internet. Whatever time they get , they use it for socializing. Now why is that? Because that is how you do it in the hiding . Society does not accept socializing . That must sound like insanity when I write it down. Buying books have become costly. Libraries have age old books. Munna Bhai showed that fact for sure that, the libraries are squeaky. No body comes there any more. Infrastructure supports libraries , at least. it is not like that the coffers dont have money for it. Goddamit ,BCCI has more money than many Fortune 500 companies.



Research , Knowledge. ????

Education has become costly. They are charging you the same amount in Indian colleges like American Universities. What the hell. In earlier days, priests made it costly for the average man to get his appointment with god. Now the temple of education has become costly. Nobody wants you to get the same amount of education anymore. They make it a luxury of the rich whose children dont value education as it is.Politicians know in their heart, that once the country gets education, all their saga of treachery goes right out of the window. They want it go on. They are the reincarnation of devil in many forms. Devil alone could not do it, He now comes in multitude.



It is high time, the bureaucrats are deported to the Andamans for Kala pani . They make lives difficult for crores. Talk about Idi Amin, Pol pot, and take slow poisoning from these bunch of corrupted politicians. We dont want it anymore. Gandhiji said lets try with non violence. But you know what "that is possible with a educated country like Britain"



Take the internal devil. Sometimes you got to enforce, you got to tighten your jaws. There is no way we can kill out degenerated organs until we cut them off. Bad habits go with determination. Strong will. What we want is a bloody revolution.



Throw away the NRI bastards. They dont bring in anything other than dreams of foreign lands. They come here, buy land at higher prices, We are left without a chance to have a home in our own towns. WE have to stay in the outskirts, since some NRI has brought all the houses near the office and his relatives are taking care of them asking for double the room rents since they want one half of it. We come to office after fighting pollution and traffic. Mind gets hurts. The morning freshness is not there. The brain needs a good morning to work good.Hey Bastards! Once you are gone you are gone., Dont come back .



What more they want to come back after they are retired ( Useless and emotional with fuzzy American system in their mind and some way more fuzzy thoughts of reviving the Indian culture only to get hurt with each passing day ) .



Although , in between they do come back, they do . Only to marry the best and leave this nation to be a breeding ground for what is left. When NRI's visit back , they want to get royal treatment,. I tell you what, take the boot. Go to hell. You have no mother. Desh Ma is my mothers mother, You left it to suffer, you dont come back when things are good just to increase the land rates,



Throw the government offices to the second tier towns., That way they will grow faster better.

It is becoming increasingly difficult for the Government employees to survive in the cities. Let them go to the second tier cities, away from the clutch of the god damned NRI;s ,real estate agents, blood sucking school boards , meaning less inflation, deathly congestion. Nonsense



There is chaos , and yes this time, this chaos will take you to next level. We will survive this drudgery, We will kill this system. We will enter,

WE need revolution, We need it now . Never more has it been the same in years, Public will rise.



Quality of life has increased , really gone up in some places, but the rest of the places are still suffering from the age old daily drama of suffering. Why?

Do you think we really deserve this. I bet most of us enjoy Hollywood movies , serials like Friends, CSI , Baywatch , or for that matter, even today we dream that one day we will live the life that they showed in "I dream of Genie"



WE still have not made that mark . I am supposed to be highly paid Software Engineer. When I compare the average standard of life that I am living to that of any student in a developed country I have to think twice. But no !

I will not leave this nation to follow a bunch of dreamers. I dream but not when I am unconscious. I dream in the present, and I will make it true. The nation will rise to its potential. We need, since a huge young generation will suddenly grow old, Dont expect your Provident funds to feed you when you get old. A small young generation will suddenly suffer the burden of feeding us. Life is hard as it is. WE will not allow a bunch of morons and selfish fools make it more difficult for us.



Make internet free or cheap in all small towns. China provides it with water and electricity. Why not in India. Follow the best , if you cannot be the best. I am not undermining our efforts already, But think about it, All the economic growth is still visible in FDI, Dollar depreciation. Trust me it is not solid gold that is backing our forex. Prices dont come down once they go up.



I will end my statement with only one word "Revolution"
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Re: Respected Hyderabadis (America vs. Hyderabad)

by Fitzyp0 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:37 pm

Moreover, Sr.K, why are you referring to Indians as "sharks" and americans as "frogs and crabs"? Plus, isn't it better and safer to live with "frogs and crabs" than sharks (who may harm you).

Once again, thank you srinu bhai and Sr.K for your enlightening replies.
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