So, how many of us Indians out there are happy about what\'s going on ? I live outside India, and have never been so ashamed of being an Indian as today. RSS, VHP and BJP are no better than some bigoted muslim organizations. I was a BJP supporter, till today. It is time for them to go.
The bastards have blackened our name everywhere, first by stoking a fire, and then by letting it get out of control
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Burning people
ravi ,u dont need to be ashamed of following bjp .what wrong with them ? i dont understand if hindus can be burnt ,and u expect us still give a damn lecture of seculrism ?damn u live thousands of miles and u can give damn advcice which costs u nothing .i iwsh u r brother or firend been burnt .u will know the pain .political prties in india have no guts to condem aganist the minorities ,congress ,cpm ,sp the so called secular people .have no value for the mojority who live here .is it wrong to defend ourselves ? i dont support vhp or bajarndal ,but i do support indianess .
i think we need parties like bjp who atleast value the hindu majority.
and to shroon i cant really speak so filthy as u ,as we are not as filthy and disgusted as u people are ( i mean people like u ) .its shows what ur relgion and culture has thought u ?
u can carry with filthy words ,we care damn bocs its not worth even shit
i think we need parties like bjp who atleast value the hindu majority.
and to shroon i cant really speak so filthy as u ,as we are not as filthy and disgusted as u people are ( i mean people like u ) .its shows what ur relgion and culture has thought u ?
u can carry with filthy words ,we care damn bocs its not worth even shit
- indian
- Guest
Burning people
Mr.Ravi no religion teaches that filth what u have pointed towards sharoon.To hell with the majority or minority, muslims in india r more than any other country(Muslim country) too.There r easily 20-25 crores but the indian govt doesn\'t want to declare thinknig that muslims may ask for quota and some illiterate(muslims) may lead the role of chenghis khan and his son halaku khan.
- parwaiz
- Guest
Burning people
Hello Ravi,
What fire are u talking about? are u referring to Ayodhya issue, if it is that, then what u are talking is bullshit as BJP has supported it both morally and physically for more than a decade now and u claim to be BJP supporter till 2nd march.
You claim that your name was blakened by these incidents. Yes, I accept that it has dented our image one more time. but did u see thru these incidents and statements of our leaders have issued during the period. Firstly, the burning of the train carrying karsevaks without any provocation(atleast not physical if u consider the slogan shouting) and secondly not even a single secular leader of any political leader of the country has strongly condemned the incident. But they were ready to condemn reactions which have engulfed the state of Gujarat. Is it not this kind of treatment towards majority community which has emboldened extremist minorities to carryout such inhuman acts of provocation? but the same secularists raised hue and cry for almost a year when Staines family was burnt inside their vehicle. What kind of political leadership we are having? there are innumerable accounts of such incidents and partiality to gain minority votebanks. I call all these leaders and secularists \"Kojjas\" ?
What fire are u talking about? are u referring to Ayodhya issue, if it is that, then what u are talking is bullshit as BJP has supported it both morally and physically for more than a decade now and u claim to be BJP supporter till 2nd march.
You claim that your name was blakened by these incidents. Yes, I accept that it has dented our image one more time. but did u see thru these incidents and statements of our leaders have issued during the period. Firstly, the burning of the train carrying karsevaks without any provocation(atleast not physical if u consider the slogan shouting) and secondly not even a single secular leader of any political leader of the country has strongly condemned the incident. But they were ready to condemn reactions which have engulfed the state of Gujarat. Is it not this kind of treatment towards majority community which has emboldened extremist minorities to carryout such inhuman acts of provocation? but the same secularists raised hue and cry for almost a year when Staines family was burnt inside their vehicle. What kind of political leadership we are having? there are innumerable accounts of such incidents and partiality to gain minority votebanks. I call all these leaders and secularists \"Kojjas\" ?
- Narender
- Guest
Burning people
Hello Ravi,
\'If you really want to remove the black spot from India.......\'
I guess most of the Indians are not happy with what\'s going on. Period.
When ever there is communal voilence first do not blame the RSS VHP BJP.
Even before ram temple(Ayodhya) issue there were many incidents of communal voilence
where many hindus and muslims have lost thier lives and properties were damaged.
Take note of some points.
- Even during Ganesh Festivals there were communal riots in Hyderabad and for that
matter many places in India.
- There are scores of places in india where land grabbing is done in the name of islam
(durgas,green flags to the trees)
- I personally know good number of families who have moved out of old city
loosing thier properties and lives.There was no Ayodhya movements then.
- A goor % of the muslim population in the old city do not pay water bill,electricity
bill.The officers cannot even enter into the localities to enforce.
becuase the muslim community says that the govt is harrasing minorities.
- The muslim goondas stab people and run away into the interiors of the old city,
The police cannot enter and catch hold of them.The reason is it is very difficult
to go in and and come out with lifee and the other reason is political pressure.
- In the riots lot of illegal land grabbing happened and many hindus lost thier
property (mind you this is nothing to do with Ayodhya)
- Very large percentage of muslims are not into the mainstream education why ?
Why are they in the clutches of clergy men still even after 50 years of independence?
Why cant muslim leadership come forward and critize the mullas and moulvis.
- Why do political parties appease the muslim minorities so much.Is it not for votes.
- Go and see the hindus who live a day to day life with muslims.They have good relationships
and friendship with muslims but when a riot comes,even the ladies are prepared with stones
and mirch powder to protect thier property and family, becuase unlike us they cannot go abroad.
- Most of the communal riots were started by muslims.Communal voilence has happened/started
always in the localities(all over india) where muslim population is in majority.
There arent any incidents where Govt(Cong,Communist,...)have arrested the culprits
and bought them into justice and instilled confidence and trust in the hindus living
with them.
- There are thousands of pakistani nationals roaming and living in these muslim localities
illegally.They cannot be caught without entering into the muslim localities.
These fundamentalists/anti nationalist take the shelter in the name of islam.
Certainly innocent muslims are helping them in the name of islam.
- Above all the most damage done to the secular fabric of india is the Press/media.
They sit in the drawing rooms and in a/c rooms and write a bullshit.They are not bothered
about the outcomes.They are baised and write nonsense for little money.The media unfortunately
has lot of brains but no guts and character(atleast national character,leave alone personal character).
There are many issues like this which makes the comman hindu to loose his temper.When such
brutal incidents happen then unfortunately there is a more worst reaction from the local people.
It is easy to blame others.
There is a famous quote by Acharya Chanakya \' The inertia of the intellectuals has done more
damage to the nation than the foriegn invadors\'.This holds true even today.
Spineless,coward intellectuals with lot of inertia are sitting in key places of public service,
especially media and govt.
If you really want to remove the black spot from India,the first step you should do is you go
back to India,stay and live for atleast 6months to 1year in a muslim locality do not forget
your family members ok. Let them live with you there.If you face some problems with
(like your sister or daughter is harrassed,your property is damaged..)then do not react
voilently,..just write letters to news papers file a complaint with the police and
wait till the justice is done for you,and sympathy shown for you.
Great values and ideals can be brought into life when you have Strength and Character.
Just some intelligence to do your profession does not protect you nor your values.
\'If you really want to remove the black spot from India.......\'
I guess most of the Indians are not happy with what\'s going on. Period.
When ever there is communal voilence first do not blame the RSS VHP BJP.
Even before ram temple(Ayodhya) issue there were many incidents of communal voilence
where many hindus and muslims have lost thier lives and properties were damaged.
Take note of some points.
- Even during Ganesh Festivals there were communal riots in Hyderabad and for that
matter many places in India.
- There are scores of places in india where land grabbing is done in the name of islam
(durgas,green flags to the trees)
- I personally know good number of families who have moved out of old city
loosing thier properties and lives.There was no Ayodhya movements then.
- A goor % of the muslim population in the old city do not pay water bill,electricity
bill.The officers cannot even enter into the localities to enforce.
becuase the muslim community says that the govt is harrasing minorities.
- The muslim goondas stab people and run away into the interiors of the old city,
The police cannot enter and catch hold of them.The reason is it is very difficult
to go in and and come out with lifee and the other reason is political pressure.
- In the riots lot of illegal land grabbing happened and many hindus lost thier
property (mind you this is nothing to do with Ayodhya)
- Very large percentage of muslims are not into the mainstream education why ?
Why are they in the clutches of clergy men still even after 50 years of independence?
Why cant muslim leadership come forward and critize the mullas and moulvis.
- Why do political parties appease the muslim minorities so much.Is it not for votes.
- Go and see the hindus who live a day to day life with muslims.They have good relationships
and friendship with muslims but when a riot comes,even the ladies are prepared with stones
and mirch powder to protect thier property and family, becuase unlike us they cannot go abroad.
- Most of the communal riots were started by muslims.Communal voilence has happened/started
always in the localities(all over india) where muslim population is in majority.
There arent any incidents where Govt(Cong,Communist,...)have arrested the culprits
and bought them into justice and instilled confidence and trust in the hindus living
with them.
- There are thousands of pakistani nationals roaming and living in these muslim localities
illegally.They cannot be caught without entering into the muslim localities.
These fundamentalists/anti nationalist take the shelter in the name of islam.
Certainly innocent muslims are helping them in the name of islam.
- Above all the most damage done to the secular fabric of india is the Press/media.
They sit in the drawing rooms and in a/c rooms and write a bullshit.They are not bothered
about the outcomes.They are baised and write nonsense for little money.The media unfortunately
has lot of brains but no guts and character(atleast national character,leave alone personal character).
There are many issues like this which makes the comman hindu to loose his temper.When such
brutal incidents happen then unfortunately there is a more worst reaction from the local people.
It is easy to blame others.
There is a famous quote by Acharya Chanakya \' The inertia of the intellectuals has done more
damage to the nation than the foriegn invadors\'.This holds true even today.
Spineless,coward intellectuals with lot of inertia are sitting in key places of public service,
especially media and govt.
If you really want to remove the black spot from India,the first step you should do is you go
back to India,stay and live for atleast 6months to 1year in a muslim locality do not forget
your family members ok. Let them live with you there.If you face some problems with
(like your sister or daughter is harrassed,your property is damaged..)then do not react
voilently,..just write letters to news papers file a complaint with the police and
wait till the justice is done for you,and sympathy shown for you.
Great values and ideals can be brought into life when you have Strength and Character.
Just some intelligence to do your profession does not protect you nor your values.
- Raijv
- Guest
Burning people
Dear MR,RAVI
many hindus do not endorse what is
happening in India .It does not mean what minorities do is correct
SP IN UP SAYS THEY ARE LARGEST PARTY AND THEY SHOULD BE INVITED TO FORM GOVT.When it comes to rule
political parties say majority but
the majority community has nothing to say .They have been pushed to the minority status.The minority
community all ways feel that the political parties will support them
what ever they do because they are
minority and their support is required.We should have one law
to all what ever community they belong.Do you know many students
of majority community do not get
seats in colloges and has to pay heavy amount because they belong
to forward community.Some of forward
community boys could not study further because they are not afford to pay heay amounts.Do you know how many forward commuity boys selling food stuffs at beach
because they belong to forward community and they do not get any priorty even they score excellent marks,.We all been taken for a ride by the politicians by dividing the community and rule.Unless we are united nothing can be done.
kannan
chennai
many hindus do not endorse what is
happening in India .It does not mean what minorities do is correct
SP IN UP SAYS THEY ARE LARGEST PARTY AND THEY SHOULD BE INVITED TO FORM GOVT.When it comes to rule
political parties say majority but
the majority community has nothing to say .They have been pushed to the minority status.The minority
community all ways feel that the political parties will support them
what ever they do because they are
minority and their support is required.We should have one law
to all what ever community they belong.Do you know many students
of majority community do not get
seats in colloges and has to pay heavy amount because they belong
to forward community.Some of forward
community boys could not study further because they are not afford to pay heay amounts.Do you know how many forward commuity boys selling food stuffs at beach
because they belong to forward community and they do not get any priorty even they score excellent marks,.We all been taken for a ride by the politicians by dividing the community and rule.Unless we are united nothing can be done.
kannan
chennai
- kannan
- Guest
Burning people
Hello Ravi,
I completely agree with your comment, all the replies you have got so far are the frogs in the well who cannot see issues from an different angle. BJP, VHP etc should have been disbanned long time ago when they assasinated the father of the nation Mahatma Gandhi. These are the people who start the fire whenever some politicans needs to create turmoil to win elections. They are stooges in the hands of few powerful BJP politicians. These are militants and should be treated as militants. They should surely be punished. If there is a pending court order no one has any right to go against it. If VHP/RSS thinks that they are above law of land, then they should be imprisoned and treated accordingly. They sure have tarnished the image of secular india one more time.
I completely agree with your comment, all the replies you have got so far are the frogs in the well who cannot see issues from an different angle. BJP, VHP etc should have been disbanned long time ago when they assasinated the father of the nation Mahatma Gandhi. These are the people who start the fire whenever some politicans needs to create turmoil to win elections. They are stooges in the hands of few powerful BJP politicians. These are militants and should be treated as militants. They should surely be punished. If there is a pending court order no one has any right to go against it. If VHP/RSS thinks that they are above law of land, then they should be imprisoned and treated accordingly. They sure have tarnished the image of secular india one more time.
- Sam
- Guest
Burning people
It is interesting to know that there was an online poll conducted last year, wherein it was asked wether it is OK to kill muslims in India like the way the Jews were killed in Nazi Germany. 60% of the voters said \'No\'. Which actaully means 40% of these voters said YES. That is every four of ten person actually supported this idea. An these are the educated voters, who had access to a computer, voted for \'YES\'!!!
With this mentality I think gone will be the days where you will find any indian fair enough to even discuss the real issue. In my mind we should support these militant organization ( RSS, VHP, BJP ) till they spin out of control and bring this already corrupt country to rags, like what has been happening in Pakistan. This is the only way this generation will learn the lesson of extremism. Hopefully they will value \'SECULARISM\' and \'RELIGIOUS TOLERENCE\' once it becomes rare.
With this mentality I think gone will be the days where you will find any indian fair enough to even discuss the real issue. In my mind we should support these militant organization ( RSS, VHP, BJP ) till they spin out of control and bring this already corrupt country to rags, like what has been happening in Pakistan. This is the only way this generation will learn the lesson of extremism. Hopefully they will value \'SECULARISM\' and \'RELIGIOUS TOLERENCE\' once it becomes rare.
- desiguy
- Guest
Burning people
Yes I read about the truth of Godhra train incident. I appreciate your effort very much to bring the truth to the knowledge of general public otherwise I doubt this truth will ever be published. Now let us see how the Government handles this problem according to our Constitution. As Indians everybody has equal rights whether he is a Hindu or a Muslim.
- Zafer
- Guest
Burning people
May I suggest that in future try providing complete reference material to remove doubts about the credibility of statements. I am not really prevy to such surveys - may be I should conduct a survey amongst Indian Muslims as to what percentage of them would like to \'terminate with extreme prejudice\' Hindus everywhere if given an opportunity. But then I will have to be an animal to undertake such a study and fortunately, the human in me is still in control of all my faculties.
- Simbarajan
- Guest
Burning people
Good for you, Ravi. We really need more of you - the quitting kind. Words are cheap and righteous indignation is very cheap. Bravo!. You should be proud of your accomplishment through your heroic withdrawl from BJP. To make up for this loss, I decided to join BJP - effect change from within - a superior man.
- Simbarajan
- Guest
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