Traffic Problems

[Sud]

It is a shame that in Hyd people dont seem to follow any traffic rules.Even the helmet rule seems to have quietened with very few people adhering to it.And you find a very scene where people actually strap the helmet to the rear of their Bike.They forget that the helmet is emant for them and not for the bike.Only Hyderabadis can do this.

Not to mention the 7 seaters and triple riding on bikes.

I have driven in 2 wheelers and 4 wheelers in Mumbai,Bangalore and Delhi but I have never found that the whole lot is collectively as foolish as the one here.

To add to this, they even pick up an argument with you even though most of the time it is their mistake.

It is really horrible to see all this happening in such a major city .I think that Hyderabad is a classic example of how suddenly a town full of rough , brazen ,ill mannered people has catapulted to become a big city and the people are unable to cope with the change.Maybe most of these people on the roads think themselves to be Nizams.



The authoritites dont care less.They are busy making money and implementing rules is totally out of their agenda.That is why you find all such unpardonable mistakes happen and no one cares.



Probably we need a dose of military/dictactor rule to set right the careless and silly attitude of the people in this city.

They forget that if you drive a little safely /following rules, not only will you reach home safer and faster, you dont risk some innocent person's life.

It is high time that Hyderabadis realise their folly and show some bit of sense in such matters so that we can make this city a better place for all of us.

If that does not happen, maybe we really need the leadership to act more strictly because people of this place are best fit for this adage in Hindi

"Laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahin maante"

[stingrae]

arre yaar..yeh kya hua? did ur car get some cute dents?



on another note...didya guys see the Radio Mirchi ad? awesome ad..



i say chill maadi..drive ur car the way u wanna...cuz on a Hydi road, noone gives a sh!t either ways... ze other day, i saw this BUS climbing over a divider on the road and taking a U-turn near SR Nagar...now beat that!

[Lucifer]

...i saw this BUS climbing over a divider on the road and taking a U-turn near SR Nagar...now beat that!

Can't beat that!



BTW, Stingrae, long time no see. You dead or something?

[Jaszalcatraz]

If he were dead you would have met him right Lucifer?

[Lucifer]

If he were dead you would have met him right Lucifer?

Weird are the ways of God. For all you know he might have gone to heaven, unlikely as it may seem. Some very strange choices have been made in this regard.

[Sud]

I just have to say one thing.

Since this is Hyd , the people are able to get away with all this.

In any other metro, I am sure people would have banged the offenders .

In any case most of the lcoal public here have not seen any other place and how people follow the rules , so therefore as you rightly said, everone here will do the way they want.And get away with all kinds of shit.

FYI I never had an accident here, but I am saying that driving is really horrible here because unlike other places people here dont even care abt their own safety.



Probably that is Hyderabadi style!! And let people have this false pride.

Maybe we need people like Naidu to instil some discipline here because the attitude of the people here needs a shock treatment.

Remember the problem here is not as much of traffic jams as it is of unsafe Traffic sense and indiscipline by all concerned-Two wheelers, Autos ,Bus walahas and even pedestrians.

God save the city!!!

[akhilis2cool]

Probably we need a dose of military/dictactor rule to set right the careless and silly attitude of the people in this city.
They forget that if you drive a little safely /following rules, not only will you reach home safer and faster, you dont risk some innocent person's life.
It is high time that Hyderabadis realise their folly and show some bit of sense in such matters so that we can make this city a better place for all of us.
If that does not happen, maybe we really need the leadership to act more strictly because people of this place are best fit for this adage in Hindi
"Laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahin maante"

U seem have generalised a view based on a few ppl. that u mite have seen in the city doing silly things. yes the authorities are a bit relaxed here but not all ppl. drive dangerously. mostly it is the motercycle riders who seem to be speeding away to hell.

take a break...

[Sud]

You can ask anyone who drives in this city and they will all tell you that it is hell driving here.It is not the case of some people, in fact most of the people are like this.

Let us face facts instead of hiding them.

And what abt the helmet rule and helmets tied at the rear of the bike? Do you think that can be seen anywhere else?



I bet it is all fine if Hyd is a small town but the fact that it is a major city and such crimes like this go unnoticed and unforgiven rather shows the callousness and irresponsibility of the authorities and it is by no means to be condoned.Anyone who is not from Hyd but drives here will tell you that it is the worst of their eperiences with so much of indiscipline shown by most people around.So the view is not only generalised but also true.



People here need that Danda always to remind them abt how they should behave else they will all behave irrationally and show total lack of public and common sense.let us for heaven's sake accept this fact that somehow

people of this city really need to grow up especially in such matters.

[Sharjeel]

I bet it is all fine if Hyd is a small town but the fact that it is a major city and such crimes like this go unnoticed and unforgiven rather shows the callousness and irresponsibility of the authorities and it is by no means to be condoned. Anyone who is not from Hyd but drives here will tell you that it is the worst of their eperiences with so much of indiscipline shown by most people around.So the view is not only generalised but also true.

Maybe, but are we doing anything about it?



Pardon me for being so blunt, but I have seen many non-Hydes and Hydes alike badmouthing traffic conditions in Hyderabad, but when they drive their vehicles themselves, they will also ignore rules.



It is like the crab's mother shouting at her son to run straight...

[mark]

I bet it is all fine if Hyd is a small town but the fact that it is a major city and such crimes like this go unnoticed and unforgiven rather shows the callousness and irresponsibility of the authorities and it is by no means to be condoned. Anyone who is not from Hyd but drives here will tell you that it is the worst of their eperiences with so much of indiscipline shown by most people around.So the view is not only generalised but also true.

Maybe, but are we doing anything about it?

Pardon me for being so blunt, but I have seen many non-Hydes and Hydes alike badmouthing traffic conditions in Hyderabad, but when they drive their vehicles themselves, they will also ignore rules.

It is like the crab's mother shouting at her son to run straight...

well i drove sensibly for the first week or so, and got ran off the road by trucks and busses for being aduacious enough to drive in a straight line, use my indicators, expect to be given right of way when the road rules dictate. It should start with the damn bus drivers, they're government employees, right? their jobs should be made very clear to them, they set the pace for the entire inner city traffic situation, and they are the rudest, loudest, most arrogent bunch of a-holes on the road! Bus drivers should be held to a higher standard, laws against truck overloading should be strictly inforced, Police should take a FAR more in-your face role, they do nothing!! in most areas of my life if the cops do as little as possible that suits me very well, however road traffic control should really begin with proactive policing. it's fine to say we all make an difference and we do, but as long as trucks and busses carve up the roads, motorcycles are going to need to swerve to avoid them and cars are going to undertake them instead of overtaking them, etc. chaos ensues. Traffic lights at junctions are almost ignored, personally i'm scared to stop at a red light if i have a truck or bus behind me as i know chances are they will want to break it and may not see me as the plough through.

so my action plan:

Much higher standards for bus drivers

Commercial truckers licence harder to get, no overloading, etc

Autowallas banned on all flyovers, and areas like amirpet where they cause obstruction

National "Drive Sensibily" day will take place on March 31st (i'm going to try to organise this actually, for the laugh). A list of simple rules for everyone to follow will be printed on a flier and distribituted throughout Hyd.

[Sharjeel]

Maybe, but are we doing anything about it?

Pardon me for being so blunt, but I have seen many non-Hydes and Hydes alike badmouthing traffic conditions in Hyderabad, but when they drive their vehicles themselves, they will also ignore rules.

It is like the crab's mother shouting at her son to run straight...

well i drove sensibly for the first week or so, and got ran off the road by trucks and busses for being aduacious enough to drive in a straight line, use my indicators, expect to be given right of way when the road rules dictate. It should start with the damn bus drivers, they're government employees, right? their jobs should be made very clear to them, they set the pace for the entire inner city traffic situation, and they are the rudest, loudest, most arrogent bunch of a-holes on the road! Bus drivers should be held to a higher standard, laws against truck overloading should be strictly inforced, Police should take a FAR more in-your face role, they do nothing!! in most areas of my life if the cops do as little as possible that suits me very well, however road traffic control should really begin with proactive policing. it's fine to say we all make an difference and we do, but as long as trucks and busses carve up the roads, motorcycles are going to need to swerve to avoid them and cars are going to undertake them instead of overtaking them, etc. chaos ensues. Traffic lights at junctions are almost ignored, personally i'm scared to stop at a red light if i have a truck or bus behind me as i know chances are they will want to break it and may not see me as the plough through.
so my action plan:
Much higher standards for bus drivers
Commercial truckers licence harder to get, no overloading, etc
Autowallas banned on all flyovers, and areas like amirpet where they cause obstruction
National "Drive Sensibily" day will take place on March 31st (i'm going to try to organise this actually, for the laugh). A list of simple rules for everyone to follow will be printed on a flier and distribituted throughout Hyd.

This is enough to make citizens more sensible, in most cases...

[mark]

Maybe, but are we doing anything about it?

Pardon me for being so blunt, but I have seen many non-Hydes and Hydes alike badmouthing traffic conditions in Hyderabad, but when they drive their vehicles themselves, they will also ignore rules.

It is like the crab's mother shouting at her son to run straight...

well i drove sensibly for the first week or so, and got ran off the road by trucks and busses for being aduacious enough to drive in a straight line, use my indicators, expect to be given right of way when the road rules dictate. It should start with the damn bus drivers, they're government employees, right? their jobs should be made very clear to them, they set the pace for the entire inner city traffic situation, and they are the rudest, loudest, most arrogent bunch of a-holes on the road! Bus drivers should be held to a higher standard, laws against truck overloading should be strictly inforced, Police should take a FAR more in-your face role, they do nothing!! in most areas of my life if the cops do as little as possible that suits me very well, however road traffic control should really begin with proactive policing. it's fine to say we all make an difference and we do, but as long as trucks and busses carve up the roads, motorcycles are going to need to swerve to avoid them and cars are going to undertake them instead of overtaking them, etc. chaos ensues. Traffic lights at junctions are almost ignored, personally i'm scared to stop at a red light if i have a truck or bus behind me as i know chances are they will want to break it and may not see me as the plough through.
so my action plan:
Much higher standards for bus drivers
Commercial truckers licence harder to get, no overloading, etc
Autowallas banned on all flyovers, and areas like amirpet where they cause obstruction
National "Drive Sensibily" day will take place on March 31st (i'm going to try to organise this actually, for the laugh). A list of simple rules for everyone to follow will be printed on a flier and distribituted throughout Hyd.

This is enough to make citizens more sensible, in most cases...

exactly. we need more of a "shoot first, ask questions later, if we have the time" sort of culture in Hyderabad. a team of 850 cleverly conceilled snipers along the busy routes, ready to take out anyone blatently disobeying the rules. these snipers would switch positions daily, and aim to maim if possible.

[Sharjeel]

Maybe, but are we doing anything about it?

Police should take a FAR more in-your face role,

This is enough to make citizens more sensible, in most cases...

exactly. we need more of a "shoot first, ask questions later, if we have the time" sort of culture in Hyderabad. a team of 850 cleverly conceilled snipers along the busy routes, ready to take out anyone blatently disobeying the rules. these snipers would switch positions daily, and aim to maim if possible.

Kin i volunteer? I aint that good at aiming...but I tops in maiming!

[mark]

Maybe, but are we doing anything about it?

Police should take a FAR more in-your face role,

This is enough to make citizens more sensible, in most cases...

exactly. we need more of a "shoot first, ask questions later, if we have the time" sort of culture in Hyderabad. a team of 850 cleverly conceilled snipers along the busy routes, ready to take out anyone blatently disobeying the rules. these snipers would switch positions daily, and aim to maim if possible.

Kin i volunteer? I aint that good at aiming...but I tops in maiming!

you can be part of my Traffic Control Samurai squad. can you handle a blade? it'll be mainly Anti-Two-wheeler stuff, pretty messy.

[Sharjeel]

Maybe, but are we doing anything about it?

Police should take a FAR more in-your face role,

This is enough to make citizens more sensible, in most cases...

exactly. we need more of a "shoot first, ask questions later, if we have the time" sort of culture in Hyderabad. a team of 850 cleverly conceilled snipers along the busy routes, ready to take out anyone blatently disobeying the rules. these snipers would switch positions daily, and aim to maim if possible.

Kin i volunteer? I aint that good at aiming...but I tops in maiming!

you can be part of my Traffic Control Samurai squad. can you handle a blade? it'll be mainly Anti-Two-wheeler stuff, pretty messy.

Samurais be too good. Ninja's are better...

[mark]

Maybe, but are we doing anything about it?

Police should take a FAR more in-your face role,

This is enough to make citizens more sensible, in most cases...

exactly. we need more of a "shoot first, ask questions later, if we have the time" sort of culture in Hyderabad. a team of 850 cleverly conceilled snipers along the busy routes, ready to take out anyone blatently disobeying the rules. these snipers would switch positions daily, and aim to maim if possible.

Kin i volunteer? I aint that good at aiming...but I tops in maiming!

you can be part of my Traffic Control Samurai squad. can you handle a blade? it'll be mainly Anti-Two-wheeler stuff, pretty messy.

Samurais be too good. Ninja's are better...

Samurais during the day, Ninjas at night. Armoured Vehicles at rush hour

[Lucifer]

Not many people know this but the cops have absolutely no authority when it concerns APSRTC bus drivers. Since the drivers are state employees they can pretty much do anything. If they get stopped by the cops, they can always get away on personal bond. May be it is stupid. But, that is the law as it stands. So, don't go blaming the cops for it.



BTW, this morning I almost died. In my Hyderabadi driving experience, I have realised that more than the buses/trucks what you must absolutely look out for are those yellow-plated indicas/qualises/sumos/etc. They have the worst drivers behind their wheels. With BPOs mushrooming in the city, their number is growing.



This morning while driving to work, this yellow-plated Indicab just decided to brake suddenly in the middle of the Panjagutta crossing. A DCM truck almost ran into me. Cannot fault the trucker. But damn that Indicab!

[Sharjeel]

This morning while driving to work, this yellow-plated Indicab just decided to brake suddenly in the middle of the Panjagutta crossing. A DCM truck almost ran into me. Cannot fault the trucker. But damn that Indicab!

Good to hear that you are still alive...



I also hate taxi drivers. irritate the hell out of me...

[Sud]

Hi

This is the exact point that I have been trying to make since I threw open the topic last evening for discussion.

I am glad that one of our friends had a narrow escape.

If we really dont have some strict enforcement of rules either by force or otherwise, we will not reach to the solution of the problem.



It is not the question of outsider or Hyderababadi etc, I am from Hyd myself though I stayed a major portion outside in Mumbai, Blore and other places, the pt is that the general Traffic culture here is so sick that for no fault of yours , you run the risk of falling into danger due to the negligent driving of some fool.We know how the uneducated locals here drive and break the rules at all times, the fact is even educated people are following suit and that is alarming.And unfortunately we dont have the right leadership in our politicians to take this problem head on.What ever happened to the implementation of that Helmet rule



Sometimes it is so horrible that you make a mockery of yourself by following the rules because the rest dont and in fact take pride in it.

I sincerely wish that some sense falls into our administrators and they are serious enough in implementing rules rather than making empty promises.



We seriously need a strong administrator who will not take any shit and teach these people some traffic sense because a majority of them dont know how to .I think it is an attitude problem more than anything else.



Apart from that, be happy that you are alive as long as you drive here.

[akhilis2cool]

I've been driving on Hyd. roads for sometime now. I have had my fare share of bad expiriences here. but I dont think its as bad out there as some ppl. are making it out to b.

what happened to lucifer cld. happen to neone in necity newhere in the whole goddam world. what rules are u going to make to stop ppl. from braking suddenly?



The laws are there. I guess the people, though, are ignorant abt. them. esp. the autowallahs . what is needed is a bit of education regarding civic sense. Many ppl. started wearing helmets after they attended the counselling sessions provided by the traffic cops (yeh not all the ppl. put the helmet on the bikes while riding) . Something similar needs to b arranged for ppl. jumping signals/changing lanes frequently etc. Once ppl. realise how wrong they were by attending a counselling session (instead of someone shouting out abuses at them for breaking rules) they will change themselves.



Overall though, i still believe it isnt as bad as some ppl. think it is.

[Sud]

How much more education can you give to people who dont want to follow rules.

It is yet another excuse that people are ignorant.Auto walllahs have been driving on the roads since ages,dont tell me that they are ignorant and dont know the rules.

People know that they need to carry helmets but dont wear them (question is not how many , the fact that easily abt 40% dont wear helmets is a known truth).Do you think that they need to be educated? I think they simply dont care.

And the way 7 seaters ply in the city despite the ban and the triple riding on bikes.Not to mention the fact that many autowalalas carry 6 or even 7 people in the auto though rules permit only 3.Do you mean to say that they are ignorant.



The people here dont care abt any law or rule.It is blatant jungle raj and let us accept this instead of defending it.

It is also not abt education , if you and I can wear helmets why not others? It is simply because they are not fined enough for breaking the rules..In Delhi and Mumbai you also have the helmet rule, you know what even the pillion rider wears one.They dont give excuses.



And one more thing, we dont feel the pain till we ourselves face it.Till then everything appears very normal.

Hope that we really have some kind of a shock treatment and attitude change to most of the offenders here so that the brash , rude and foolish behaviour replaced with one of more of some civic sense and traffic culture which many people in this city severely lack.



This will prevent our dear city from becoming one more Bihar and the animal instincts that people exhibit on the roads here does get curbed.

[Lucifer]

I havel always held the opinion that educating people about traffic rules or fining them when they break them do not work. What works is this. Simply detain any person who breaks the rules by two hours. Don't even take him to the station. Just ask him to park his ass somewhere around.



Most people jump signals because they are late to get to some place. If they know that jumping them would get them later, they would not. In any case, why the hell did they not start five minutes earlier? If only people start from their homes five minutes earlier, life could be a lot easier out there on the roads.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

baaaaaaaaahhh.... too much whining

[akhilis2cool]

How much more education can you give to people who dont want to follow rules.
It is yet another excuse that people are ignorant.Auto walllahs have been driving on the roads since ages,dont tell me that they are ignorant and dont know the rules.
People know that they need to carry helmets but dont wear them (question is not how many , the fact that easily abt 40% dont wear helmets is a known truth).Do you think that they need to be educated? I think they simply dont care.
And the way 7 seaters ply in the city despite the ban and the triple riding on bikes.Not to mention the fact that many autowalalas carry 6 or even 7 people in the auto though rules permit only 3.Do you mean to say that they are ignorant.

is knowing the rules all that it takes to follow them? as long as people are not told about how dengerous breaking the rules is, for themselves as well as others, they will never learn. And frankly i have not been able to understand the relation between bad driving and wearing helmets. do people wearing helmets drive better and AFAIK the rule has not been fully implmented as of now...

The people here dont care abt any law or rule.It is blatant jungle raj and let us accept this instead of defending it.
It is also not abt education , if you and I can wear helmets why not others? It is simply because they are not fined enough for breaking the rules..In Delhi and Mumbai you also have the helmet rule, you know what even the pillion rider wears one.They dont give excuses.

U and I are aware of the dangers of driving on roads without helmets...others arent...no point being aware only abt. the rules...u laso need to know why they are there in the first place!

[Kavita]

Did not read the thread but I have seen many non-hydis cribbing about this most of the times.



My opinion on this topic:



First thing I would like to tell them is: You have come to a different place, do not expect things to be as they used to be in your place.



Secondly, I travelled in gallis and thin lanes too. Everyday traffic there comprises of two wheelers, tractors, vegitable bandi vala, etc. I find it quite amazing how they manage without any problems. The show patience and give way to others, if some one is in a hurry they are allowed to go first, if someones bike is parked and is obstructing some ones way, he comes out and moves it aside till the bandi vala or who ever it is goes and then parks it agian. They take care not to park in such a way but space cruch makes it inevitable. And children play on these roads too. Till now I havent see a single accident or argument or any thing of this sort.



How come all this happens mostly only on main roads?



Thirdly, pleaseeeeeee dont bring in the lanes concept. I stongly feel it doesnt suit our traffic. Atleast it needs modification if we have to go for it. I do not understand how a lane concept will suit for a Car, Auto, Rikshaw, Bicycle, , Bullockcart, pedestriants. Can any one of you explan this to me? I feel its another area where we are importing American ideas.



arey yaar, copy karni hai, to samajh dari se karo, makhi ki makhi nahi.